سلام دوستان من حدودا يك ماه يدونه fantom x خريدم ولي نميتونم باهاش كار كنم اينم بگم كه كاملا به موسيقي اشنايي دارم و چند سال اهنگ ميسازم خوشحال ميشم اگه كسي بتوه كمكم كنه چون واقعا كارم لنگ اميدوارم بتونم جبران كنم.
سوال در مورد fantom x
- شروع کننده موضوع Ramtin Shabanian
- تاریخ شروع
زياد مشكل دارم ولي فعلا بيشترين مشكلم با نحوه ريتم سازي هست منظورم منوي هست كه در رابطه با ريتم سازيه وقتي كليد شيفت+ريتم ميزني مياد اون منو رو مشكل دارم و نميتونم از لاين ديجيتال خروجي بگيرم الان فقط out put a كار ميكنه. از شماهم ممنونم اميدوارم بتونم جبران كنم.
من منظورم از خروجي ديجيتال همون لايني هست كه به كارت صدا بايد وصل بشه من وصلش كردم الان ميتونم از سيستمم صدا بدم تو ساز ولي از ساز صدا تو سيستم نميره.
اگه منظورتون از خروجی دیجیتال کابل نوری یا همون optical هستش کارتتون باید این ورودی رو داشته باشه.
باید از خروجی صدای کیبورتون به ورودی کارت صداتون کابل بکشید.
نه منظورم کابل optical نیست خروجی دیجیتال که شکل پورتش مثل video تلوزیون هست که اکثر کارت صداهای m-audio دارن و صدای استریو رو فقط از یه کابل دو رشته میده هم سازم رو به کارت صدا وصل کردم هم خروجی کارت صدا رو از کارت صدا میتونم خروجی بگیرم ولی از ساز نمیتونم به کارت صدا بدم مدل کارت صدا:m-audio firewire solo
به اون میگن خروجی s/pdif .
برای اینکه از این خروجی استفاده کنید باید اون رو در منوی کیبوردتون فعال کنید و همچنین در ترکی که میخواین رکورد کنید. گزینه s/pdif رو انتخاب کنید.
برای اینکه از این خروجی استفاده کنید باید اون رو در منوی کیبوردتون فعال کنید و همچنین در ترکی که میخواین رکورد کنید. گزینه s/pdif رو انتخاب کنید.
من کارهام با cubase ضبط میکنم ایا باید از جایی خروجی s/pdif رو فعال کنم؟ اگه این طور ممنون میشم توضیح بدید چطوری فعالش کنم. بازم از شما برای پاسختون ممنونم.
من هنوز تو خروجي گرفتن از پورت spdif سازم مشكل دارم اگه كسي بلده ممنون ميشم كمكم كنه من فكر ميكنم مشكل از سازم همه چيز رديف كردم ولي نشد.
عزیز دقیق بگو خروجیهای این سازت چی هست
چه تعداد و چه پورتهایی هست
و شما میخوای چیکار کنی.؟
دقیق بگو
چون توی همه سازهای یه چیزایی استاندارد هست و خروجی s/pdif هم توی اکثر لوازم سوتی تصویری هست .
پس نباید مشکل سختی باشه
حالا شما فقطیه پورت spdif داری ؟ پورت دیگری نداری؟
چه تعداد و چه پورتهایی هست
و شما میخوای چیکار کنی.؟
دقیق بگو
چون توی همه سازهای یه چیزایی استاندارد هست و خروجی s/pdif هم توی اکثر لوازم سوتی تصویری هست .
پس نباید مشکل سختی باشه
حالا شما فقطیه پورت spdif داری ؟ پورت دیگری نداری؟
نه اين ساز پورت معمولي مثل ارگهاي ديگه هم داره ولي كيفيت پرت pdif براي خروجي گرفتن از ساز خيلي بهتره من چون سازم دست دو گرفتم ميترسم كه يه موقع اين پورتش سوخته باشه من بيشتر جاهاش رو گشتم ولي گزينه اي مبني بر فعال كردن اين پرت نديدم جالب اين جاست كه ورودي اين پرت روي ساز فعال و من ميتونم صدا به ساز بدم.آيا ممكن اين پورت بسوزه؟
عزیز من اخرش نفهمیدم ورودی این پورت فعاله ؟ مگه spdif خروجی نیست ؟
دوما این SPdif رو باید به یک وسیله آمپر مانند نصب کنی !!! مستقیم به اسپیکر نزنی !
پشت رسیور من هم یه دونه spdif هست ولی وقتی بهش هدفون میزنم چیزی در نمیاد !
پس این یه رابط هستش
در ضمن برقش رو هم از توی تنظیمات روشن کردم و این پورتم فعاله ولی وقتی هدفون میزنم چیزی رو نمیشنوی !
پس نتیجه میگیریم که این پورت حتما باید به یه وسیله وصل بشه .
مثلا لاین :smile (20): نمیدونم بزار یه سرچ بزنم ببینم چی دستگیرم میشه.
دوما این SPdif رو باید به یک وسیله آمپر مانند نصب کنی !!! مستقیم به اسپیکر نزنی !
پشت رسیور من هم یه دونه spdif هست ولی وقتی بهش هدفون میزنم چیزی در نمیاد !
پس این یه رابط هستش
در ضمن برقش رو هم از توی تنظیمات روشن کردم و این پورتم فعاله ولی وقتی هدفون میزنم چیزی رو نمیشنوی !
پس نتیجه میگیریم که این پورت حتما باید به یه وسیله وصل بشه .
مثلا لاین :smile (20): نمیدونم بزار یه سرچ بزنم ببینم چی دستگیرم میشه.
S/PDIF is a protocol and a set of specifications for carrying between and over either optical or electrical cable. The name stands for Sony/Philips Digital Interconnect Format (more commonly known as Sony Philips Digital Interface), and being the primary designers of S/PDIF. S/PDIF is standardized in 60958 where it is known as IEC 60958 type II. S/PDIF is essentially a minor modification of the original standard, for consumer use, providing small differences in the protocol and requiring less-expensive hardware.
Applications
A common use for the S/PDIF interface is to carry digital audio as defined by the standard IEC 61937. This mode is used to connect the output of a DVD player to a receiver that supports or . Another common use is to carry uncompressed digital audio from a CD player to a receiver. This specification also allows for the coupling of personal computer digital sound (if equipped) via optical or coax to Dolby or DTS capable receivers. This only supports stereo sound, unless the personal computer supports or
[] Hardware specifications
S/PDIF was developed at the same time as the main standard, , used to interconnect professional audio equipment in the professional . This was a result of the desire of the various standards committees to have at least sufficient similarities between the two interfaces to allow the use of the same, or very similar, designs for interfacing IC's . S/PDIF remained almost identical at the level (consumer S/PDIF provides for , whereas professional interfaces do not), but changed the physical connectors from to either electrical (with ) or (; i.e., F05 or EIAJ Optical), both of which cost less. The RCA connectors are typically color-coded orange to differentiate from other RCA connector uses such as . The cable was also changed from 110 to the already far more common (and therefore compatible and inexpensive) 75 Ω , using RCA jacks instead of the , which is more common in commercial applications. S/PDIF is, for all intents and purposes, a consumer version of the AES/EBU format.
There are no differences between the signals transmitted over optical or coaxial S/PDIF connectors—both carry exactly the same information. Selection of one over the other rests mainly on the availability of appropriate connectors on the chosen equipment and the preference and convenience of the user. TOSLINK cables do not work well (and may even suffer permanent damage) if tightly bent, and their high light-signal attenuation limits their effective range to 6.1 metres (20 ft) or so. On the other hand, TOSLINK cables are not susceptible to and , like coaxial cables. Another deciding factor for many is cost: any standard 75 Ω A/V cable can be used for coaxial connectivity, while TOSLINK requires a specific cable which, until recently[], was not very affordable.
Protocol specifications
S/PDIF is used to transmit digital signals of a number of formats, the most common being the 48 kHz format (used in ) and the 44.1 kHz format, used in CD audio. In order to support both systems, as well as others that might be needed, the format has no defined . Instead, the data is sent using , which has either one or two transitions for every , allowing the original to be extracted from the signal itself.
S/PDIF is meant to be used for transmitting 20-bit audio data streams plus other related information. To transmit sources with less than 20 bits of sample accuracy, the superfluous bits will be set to zero. S/PDIF can also transport 24-bit samples by way of four extra bits; however, not all equipment supports this, and these extra bits might be ignored.
Since the low-level protocol is almost the same, it is described in the article. The only difference is in the "channel status bit".
[] Channel status bit
Limitations
S/PDIF lacks and facilities, which limits its usefulness in applications outside of synchronous playback.
Because the receiver cannot control the data rate, it instead has to avoid by synchronising its conversion with the source clock. This means that S/PDIF cannot fully decouple the final signal from influence by the analogue characteristics of the source or the interconnect, even though the digital audio data can normally be transmitted without loss. The source clock may carry inherent or , and the process of may be further influenced by noise or distortion introduced in the data cable. If the does not have a stable clock reference then noise will be introduced into the resulting analogue signal. However, receivers can implement various strategies which limit this influence.
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Applications
A common use for the S/PDIF interface is to carry digital audio as defined by the standard IEC 61937. This mode is used to connect the output of a DVD player to a receiver that supports or . Another common use is to carry uncompressed digital audio from a CD player to a receiver. This specification also allows for the coupling of personal computer digital sound (if equipped) via optical or coax to Dolby or DTS capable receivers. This only supports stereo sound, unless the personal computer supports or
[] Hardware specifications
S/PDIF was developed at the same time as the main standard, , used to interconnect professional audio equipment in the professional . This was a result of the desire of the various standards committees to have at least sufficient similarities between the two interfaces to allow the use of the same, or very similar, designs for interfacing IC's . S/PDIF remained almost identical at the level (consumer S/PDIF provides for , whereas professional interfaces do not), but changed the physical connectors from to either electrical (with ) or (; i.e., F05 or EIAJ Optical), both of which cost less. The RCA connectors are typically color-coded orange to differentiate from other RCA connector uses such as . The cable was also changed from 110 to the already far more common (and therefore compatible and inexpensive) 75 Ω , using RCA jacks instead of the , which is more common in commercial applications. S/PDIF is, for all intents and purposes, a consumer version of the AES/EBU format.
There are no differences between the signals transmitted over optical or coaxial S/PDIF connectors—both carry exactly the same information. Selection of one over the other rests mainly on the availability of appropriate connectors on the chosen equipment and the preference and convenience of the user. TOSLINK cables do not work well (and may even suffer permanent damage) if tightly bent, and their high light-signal attenuation limits their effective range to 6.1 metres (20 ft) or so. On the other hand, TOSLINK cables are not susceptible to and , like coaxial cables. Another deciding factor for many is cost: any standard 75 Ω A/V cable can be used for coaxial connectivity, while TOSLINK requires a specific cable which, until recently[], was not very affordable.
Protocol specifications
S/PDIF is used to transmit digital signals of a number of formats, the most common being the 48 kHz format (used in ) and the 44.1 kHz format, used in CD audio. In order to support both systems, as well as others that might be needed, the format has no defined . Instead, the data is sent using , which has either one or two transitions for every , allowing the original to be extracted from the signal itself.
S/PDIF is meant to be used for transmitting 20-bit audio data streams plus other related information. To transmit sources with less than 20 bits of sample accuracy, the superfluous bits will be set to zero. S/PDIF can also transport 24-bit samples by way of four extra bits; however, not all equipment supports this, and these extra bits might be ignored.
Since the low-level protocol is almost the same, it is described in the article. The only difference is in the "channel status bit".
[] Channel status bit
Limitations
S/PDIF lacks and facilities, which limits its usefulness in applications outside of synchronous playback.
Because the receiver cannot control the data rate, it instead has to avoid by synchronising its conversion with the source clock. This means that S/PDIF cannot fully decouple the final signal from influence by the analogue characteristics of the source or the interconnect, even though the digital audio data can normally be transmitted without loss. The source clock may carry inherent or , and the process of may be further influenced by noise or distortion introduced in the data cable. If the does not have a stable clock reference then noise will be introduced into the resulting analogue signal. However, receivers can implement various strategies which limit this influence.
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حرف من فکر کنم درست در اومد :smile (20):
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